This one of many links that compares the ACT and SAT test scores. If I read it correctly the writing portion of the tests is not included. I believe the writing portion on the SAT has a bigger impact on the final score than it does on the ACT. I may not be accurate on this but this is what it seems. The writing on the ACT does not really seem to change the final score. I say this because my sons English and writing scores varied by 30% and his final ACT score remained the same.
http://www.eguidancecounselor.com/act_sat_comparison.htm#SCALE COMPARISONS
Saturday, November 21, 2009
Visual and auditory learners
I have read a lot about this and listed to Andrew Pudewa talk about brain development. This is just a funny story that happened with my son. One of my sons is an auditory learner. He learned to read listening to me teach the older one. I have always wondered how he knows the words to so many songs and can walk out of a movie and repeat the lines. His world is very different than mine. He is unconsciously aware of all the sounds around him. Now to the story: the two boys were in their spanish class at the community college. One was following along in the book while the other was drawing and playing around. The teacher was calling on the students to read in spanish out of the text book (my two boys are sharing a book in the class because I am cheap and only bought one.) The son following along and paying attention "spaced out" (as he put it) and the other son who wasn't really following along had to point out where they were in the book. That auditory learner really does know what is going on even when they appear not to be paying attention.
This same child I purchased a rubber squishy ball for so that he doesn't annoy everyone around him because he constantly needs to be moving or playing with something.
The lesson here is to identify the learning styles of our children to help them to be the best learner they can be.
This same child I purchased a rubber squishy ball for so that he doesn't annoy everyone around him because he constantly needs to be moving or playing with something.
The lesson here is to identify the learning styles of our children to help them to be the best learner they can be.
Community College Classes
A word to the wise- do your homework. While you think you may be saving money you may find that your children have to repeat classes or they only transfer as electives.
1. It is best to have an idea of the schools you might transfer to after the community college.
2. Check with the university to see what type of classes they will accept. The truly liberal arts schools usually have a set curriculum and there is very little that will transfer.
3. Foreign language- this has been very eye opening for us. Most high schools require 2 years of foreign language which is considered college prep. Many college degrees have a foreign language requirement, an BA degree (BS degrees usually don't). Here is the catch, at the community college there are usually 4 semesters offered. Our cc offered a 101, 102, 103, and a 104 level. With 2 semester of high school foreign language you can take the 103 class. Some cc want you take a placement test. You can buy the credits if you do well. It is usually about $10 per credit hour which isn't bad. Here is the bad part. The first two classes don't qualify for the foreign language requirement. The 103 and 104 levels are the classes that transfer for most universities. At the university or 4 year college you have to place into the first (103 class). If the child has not had the foreign language recently they end up having to take a refresher course which is considered an elective. I know this is confusing so if you have questions let me know. The bottom line is have the school the child is ultimately interested in approve the cc class and GET IT IN WRITING that they will receive the appropriate credit.
The college my one son is interested in told me not to waste the money on buying the credits for the first two classes because it won't do anything for him; they would just be extra credits.
4. Not all math classes transfer. Make sure you check the prerequisites before taking a class. Look at the class syllabus and see if it something they have already done and see if you can place out of the class. I recently found out that you can actually take a placement test at the cc to place into calculus if you have a high enough ACT score in math. It took taking to 5 people to get that verified. Most of the people at the cc told me you could not do that.
The key here is ask the right questions. Rephrase the question if you aren't sure they are understanding what you are asking. Most importantly get it in writing.
1. It is best to have an idea of the schools you might transfer to after the community college.
2. Check with the university to see what type of classes they will accept. The truly liberal arts schools usually have a set curriculum and there is very little that will transfer.
3. Foreign language- this has been very eye opening for us. Most high schools require 2 years of foreign language which is considered college prep. Many college degrees have a foreign language requirement, an BA degree (BS degrees usually don't). Here is the catch, at the community college there are usually 4 semesters offered. Our cc offered a 101, 102, 103, and a 104 level. With 2 semester of high school foreign language you can take the 103 class. Some cc want you take a placement test. You can buy the credits if you do well. It is usually about $10 per credit hour which isn't bad. Here is the bad part. The first two classes don't qualify for the foreign language requirement. The 103 and 104 levels are the classes that transfer for most universities. At the university or 4 year college you have to place into the first (103 class). If the child has not had the foreign language recently they end up having to take a refresher course which is considered an elective. I know this is confusing so if you have questions let me know. The bottom line is have the school the child is ultimately interested in approve the cc class and GET IT IN WRITING that they will receive the appropriate credit.
The college my one son is interested in told me not to waste the money on buying the credits for the first two classes because it won't do anything for him; they would just be extra credits.
4. Not all math classes transfer. Make sure you check the prerequisites before taking a class. Look at the class syllabus and see if it something they have already done and see if you can place out of the class. I recently found out that you can actually take a placement test at the cc to place into calculus if you have a high enough ACT score in math. It took taking to 5 people to get that verified. Most of the people at the cc told me you could not do that.
The key here is ask the right questions. Rephrase the question if you aren't sure they are understanding what you are asking. Most importantly get it in writing.
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